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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2018 3:15 pm 
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/18/gop-rep...ation.html

About time ...
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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2018 4:18 pm 
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Drain the swamp.
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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2018 4:34 pm 
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It's not about time. The whole thing is horse crap whipped up by Fox News, as they did with Seth Rich and Pizza Gate. Only Fox News would regard 5% of the Republican members of the House signing such a letter a big deal. Fox is just desperate to divert attention to their boy Hannity's unethical conflicts of interest.
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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2018 5:08 pm 
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Pretty sure Fox News didn't sign, draft, organize, or send the letter. I could have used other news outlets to cite this report. Weird criticism ...

As for the number of Republicans that signed this referral, I agree it is small. When I have a moment, i'll see if there may be a reason for this number.

Bout time ...

The abuse of our DOJ and FBI by these partisan hacks must be stopped and must be punished.
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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2018 6:02 pm 
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[quote="Amador"]Pretty sure Fox News didn't sign, draft, organize, or send the letter.[quote]

Well I am not so sure of that at all. Hell, Hannity is acting as Chief of Staff for the White House, but setting that aside, I think you misunderstood. It's Fox's making a big deal of this trivial BS regarding 5% of the Republicans in the House that is the "whipping up" to which I refer. It's a big nuthingburger.

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As for the number of Republicans that signed this referral, I agree it is small. When I have a moment, i'll see if there may be a reason for this number.


I'll take "There's Only A Dozen That Nutters" for 500 Alex.
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PostPosted: 19 Apr 2018 5:03 pm 
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Oops

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The Justice Department inspector general referred its finding that former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe repeatedly misled investigators to the top federal prosecutor in D.C. to determine whether McCabe should be charged with a crime, according to people familiar with the matter.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-secu...395317da8a

Republicans aren't the only ones (all 11 of them) that think McCabe is dirty.

About time ...

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PostPosted: 19 Apr 2018 7:18 pm 
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Recrimination is a time honored method to try to escape consequences of criminal activity. It also feels good if you support the criminal. But in the context of this discussion it does nothing to absolve Trump and his cronies for whatever they did, if they did.

People now see Trump’s slinging of dung at any and everyone who criticizes him for what it is - a mere fog of dung to hide himself from responsibility for his ineffectiveness, his lack of policy knowledge, his lack of executive skills and his irresponsible, and probably criminal, behavior.

Having said all that I am perfectly willing to accept whatever Mueller finds and recommends. Hes earner rhe right to be above reproach.
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PostPosted: 19 Apr 2018 8:40 pm 
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Lock her up! Lock her up!

Squirrel! Squirrel!!

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PostPosted: 13 May 2018 4:16 am 
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Supposedly the ultimate manifestation of the swamp was influence peddling. Turns out the real purpose for Michael Cohen's company, Essential Consulting, wasn't just to pay to silence porn stars and knocked up Playboy bunnies. It was to peddle influence to the Trump Administration. Trump's personal attorney was a$$ deep in what amount to at least attempts to bribe the President of the United States.
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PostPosted: 14 May 2018 1:19 pm 
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Laughing

It is going to be a long hard 8 years for you.
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PostPosted: 14 May 2018 1:22 pm 
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You have abandoned addressing the substance of anything.
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PostPosted: 14 May 2018 1:37 pm 
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" attempts" ! Shame on you
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PostPosted: 14 May 2018 2:16 pm 
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BigJim49AustinnowDallas wrote:
" attempts" ! Shame on you


Actual words, "at least attempts." Further, "attempts" are a violation.
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PostPosted: 15 May 2018 12:45 pm 
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1. Chinese company sells US technology to Iran and North Korea.

2. Violations are so bad that Trump's Commerce Department imposed sanctions, including depriving it of access to US technology.

3. China invests $500,000,000 in a huge Trump project in Indonesia.

4. Trump announces he will lift sanctions against Chinese company.

Trump is the swamp.
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PostPosted: 15 May 2018 2:37 pm 
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Surely there must be more to this.
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PostPosted: 16 May 2018 4:50 am 
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Of course there is more. The more is that this is for the Trump Organization that Trump refused to place in a blind trust per standard ethical guidelines and consistent with how past Presidents have treated their business assets. Rather, he said his kids would just take over "day to day operations" of the businesses.

Trump could have avoided even the appearance of impropriety, as other Presidents have done. He refused to do so.
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PostPosted: 16 May 2018 2:29 pm 
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tridot wrote:
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Surely there must be more to this.


Yes, Keith forgot to tell you that the Trump Organization entered into the agreement to participate in the development of the resort in 2015, and that the original framework agreement for the work by the Chinese company was signed nearly 2 years ago.

There may be something to this story, but we should wait for all the facts to get out before falling for Keith's animus driven hyperbole.
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 5:01 am 
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The Chinese decision to invest half a billion dollars in the project and Trump's tweet favorable to the sanctioned Chinese company were within 24 hours of each other. Wonder if so much benefit of the doubt would be granted to Obama.

Again, Trump could have avoided the appearance of impropriety here by following standard procedures to put his business interests in a blind trust, as other Presidents have done. He didn't, and that is suspect in itself. It should bar him from getting any benefit of doubt.
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 9:34 am 
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Trump does not care about the appearance of impropriety, or of impropriety. He is in it to win it, and his worldview tells him that he who has the most money wins. Anyone who expected this prissy snob to drain the swamp if pretty dull. As Keith said yesterday, he is the swamp, and he’s darn proud of it.
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 10:26 am 
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Trump does not care about the appearance of impropriety, or of impropriety. He is in it to win it, and his worldview tells him that he who has the most money wins. Anyone who expected this prissy snob to drain the swamp if pretty dull. As Keith said yesterday, he is the swamp, and he’s darn proud of it.


No - he's not the swamp. Anybody with an iota of intelligence can recognize that he isn't in cahoots with anyone in Washington. He may be a new swamp - I won't argue about that. But he's also exposing the old swamp in ways that it has never been exposed before.

Competition might be the best way to drain the swamp. I've told you on these boards that it would get worse before it gets better. I stand by that.
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 10:31 am 
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Sure, the Donald has some grand scheme he is executing to drain the swamp ... sure.
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 10:36 am 
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Right, the old swamp was supposedly bad because it was filled with hidden graft and corruption. The new swamp is supposedly superior because it is filled with open graft and corruption. The inhabitants of the old swamp, of American influence peddlers and peddlees, are replaced by Chinese peddlees and porn stars. We are supposed to feel better about that.
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 11:27 am 
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kellypo wrote:
Sure, the Donald has some grand scheme he is executing to drain the swamp ... sure.


No. He's just competing with it. That's bringing LOTS of things to light.
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 11:52 am 
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What specifically has been brought to light? I mean other than Trump's corruption. For God's sake we have Presidential payments to porn stars brought to light, and all the Trumpers are just okay with it all.

What's wrong with this country?
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 12:04 pm 
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Aggie 93 wrote:
kellypo wrote:
Sure, the Donald has some grand scheme he is executing to drain the swamp ... sure.


No. He's just competing with it. That's bringing LOTS of things to light.


You don’t fight corruption with corruption. This isn’t a fire. Where does your logic come from?
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PostPosted: 17 May 2018 1:15 pm 
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kellypo wrote:
Sure, the Donald has some grand scheme he is executing to drain the swamp ... sure.


No. He's just competing with it. That's bringing LOTS of things to light.


You don’t fight corruption with corruption. This isn’t a fire. Where does your logic come from?


What do you base your logic on? Politicians have been coming to DC for decades (or longer) with little/no money in their pocket and leaving rich. We haven't exactly been successful in fighting corruption so far - so I don't think we have a model to base success on. You can disagree with me - but you know the definition of insanity. This is at least different.
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