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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 11:21 am 
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middleto wrote:
Agree with Zebco. I'm backing the man. Did you hear his response when questioned about the horn kid staring down our dugout rounding 3rd base. Brilliantly answered in my opinion. I want this guy around. Gig 'em for a decent year during rebuilding!


The guy who couldn't strategize around the the one good t.u. batter and let him beat us?
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 11:28 am 
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We know what he is. If you are okay with around a .500 conference record. Making a regional every year. Making a super regional every three years or so. Never winning a CWS game the 1 time we get there every six or so years and winning the SEC regular season once evry 6 or 7 years. Childress is the guy for you.

For me.. I expect more.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 11:39 am 
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I think it's time to part ways with RC. Doesn't mean the next coach will make us a perennial CWS contender immediately but we have all the requisites to be one.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 2:16 pm 
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Put it this way, if for whatever reason we needed to hire a new HC for baseball tomorrow, and if we / Woodward asked ourselves “do we believe candidate X can get us to the CWS 2x in the next 10-12 years and actually win some games there?” and the answer to that question was NO, then candidate X would not be hired. For the same reason the incumbent should not be retained IMHO.

However, I can understand one more season being given, but pretty sure that season needs to end in Omaha with more than 0-2 to show for it……

Rob has done a good job overall, won the XII/SEC conf. or tourney, won Regionals and Super Regionals, but 0-4 in Omaha is not good. I’m not even expecting to win the CWS, but we need to show up once there..

It’s not a revenue sport, attendance is good, support is good, program is good, just needs to get over the final hump IMHO, which is not even winning the NC, though that is the ultimate goal of course.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 2:58 pm 
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Brilliantly answered? Are you kidding me?

Have you ever played the game?

No way you put up with that crap.

Next time up, you knock him down / put one in his ribs.

Don't let him show you up, show up you pitcher, show up your dugout, show up your entire fan base, on national TV.

RR
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 3:36 pm 
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So, what was RC's response to the question? Question
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 4:07 pm 
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Our AD does not appear to be fooling around. Volleyball and Women's Golf made pretty quick changes. My guess is he's evaluating baseball as well.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 4:09 pm 
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Pending Games for FL, UGA, and Ole Miss, the SEC currently has FIVE (5) teams in Super Regionals (USC, Miss. State, Vandy, Auburn, Pig), I would expect that # to grow to 8, but baseball being baseball it may only go to 6 or 7, who knows.

LSU was eliminated in Regional play along with A&M. Down year for LSU who is traditionally very strong in hardball.

We played tougher competition throughout the season, but it didn’t matter when it came time for Regional play.

Meanwhile in Tuscaloosa they are obsessing over who the backup deep snapper will be…..
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 4:37 pm 
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I guess I'm in the Zebco corner.

Said another way, I think SW has "a frank talk" with Rob -- just as he had "about" Kevin with Finebaum last spring.

Examine the program's shortcomings and determine whether he thinks Rob (1) has clearly identified them as well and, more importantly, (2) whether he has a plan to address.

We can and should be better than what we've been over the decades of the twenty-teens.

The fact that we have not and are not is a legitimate point of discussion who desire excellence in each and every one of our athletic programs.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 4:41 pm 
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I guess I'm in the Zebco corner.

Said another way, I think SW has "a frank talk" with Rob -- just as he had "about" Kevin with Finebaum last spring.

Examine the program's shortcomings and determine whether he thinks Rob (1) has clearly identified them as well and, more importantly, (2) whether he has a plan to address.

We can and should be better than what we've been over the decades of the twenty-teens.

The fact that we have not and are not is a legitimate point of discussion who desire excellence in each and every one of our athletic programs.


The frank talk will have the same outcome as Sumlin a waste of time and year.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 6:07 pm 
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Maybe...and many are saying the '19 class addresses a lot of holes in the lineup with some projected talent. Perhaps the potential for the best class Rob and Co. have had.

If we lose only the top 2 or 3 of top 4, it is projected to be a very strong class.

That has been one of my top three concerns.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 6:38 pm 
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Yep, Dad.

I'll always err on giving someone who's demonstrated competence as a good coach the opportunity to make that small but critical step from good to great.

The shortcomings on this year's hardball team were there for all to see.

Were they a byproduct of coaching?

Or insufficient skills on the players' part?

Or a combination of both?

In Kevin's case, the white hot spotlight and the impetus for SW's remarks about Kevin's status was our inability to finish in the late October/early November part of the schedule.

There weren't necessarily equal parts to Kevin's dilemma, but the same sort of factors existed there: questions about S&C, early season pedal to the metal that didn't leave enough in the tank, playing too few players given the grind of the SEC season ... and on and on.

But you can't simply pull these things out into the middle of the room -- acknowledge them -- and then not address them. Not if you want to have a consistent, nationally recognized top tier program.

And if they're not sufficiently addressed in our hardball program once identified and acknowledged, we all know the ultimate outcome that will occur.

And in that case, it's not a matter of whether ... but when.


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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 6:49 pm 
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Add to the list he can’t beat the sips when it matters.
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 9:24 pm 
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And now Ole Miss goes down making the sips road to Omaha a lot easier. Brick wall
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PostPosted: 04 Jun 2018 9:42 pm 
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Ole Miss goes down, Georgia goes down and Florida in trouble.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 7:53 am 
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Tournament ball does not always address the best team coming out on top. It probably addresses the best team on that day most of the time.

But it does bring into the conversation potential myths about whether a team or a league is the best or not sometimes.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 10:14 am 
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aglefty wrote:
Brilliantly answered? Are you kidding me?

Have you ever played the game?

No way you put up with that crap.

Next time up, you knock him down / put one in his ribs.

Don't let him show you up, show up you pitcher, show up your dugout, show up your entire fan base, on national TV.

RR


He didn't show up the fan base and yes I've played the game. I would have been fine knocking him down, but the best way to respond is to beat him. We couldn't do it, get over it and do better next time! I want my coach stating what he stated publically. What he says in the locker room may be different.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 10:17 am 
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rockett2 wrote:
So, what was RC's response to the question? Question


He basically shrugged it off. Said, "next time make a better pitch".
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 2:39 pm 
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So he threw the pitcher under the bus?

Yeah that is the man I want to follow.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 3:53 pm 
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Hey Lefty!

Question from Ed here .... Is this Mason Englert kid whom the Rangers just took in the 4th related to RJ? I thought you would know or could easily find out from our man Reuben.

I sure hope so! .... or he's probably long gone.

And BTW, the only modification to your above statement is that I would have fired up a 95-mph heater and hit him square in the butt cheeks!

IMO, hitting him in the ribs would have possibly conveyed way too much sympathy in his direction. I'd be seeking humiliation -- not sympathy! Very Happy



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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 4:17 pm 
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Mighty Kyle wrote:
So he threw the pitcher under the bus?

Yeah that is the man I want to follow.


If that's the way you want to look at it, you're free to do so. I heard it as taking responsibility for a mistake and owning up to it. Nothing I can say will change your mind, clearly.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 8:34 pm 
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Pro ball is one thing...and they don't have a lot of three day tournaments...

Throwing at a player in an obvious attempt to send a message could very easily get your pitcher tossed FOR THAT GAME AND THE NEXT...especially in your opponents home stadium backed by a sellout of their vocal fans to influence big blue...which could in fact kill your team's rotation and chances to win the tourney...

Now that would be stupid...and would probably not generate the feeling of sending a message--rather you would be playing right into the hands of you opponent who had suckered you into losing your cool--with a stare. Rolling Eyes

College ball just isn't the same--at least not anymore...bank on it Whistle
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2018 8:59 pm 
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I'd have had no problem with Clemens getting plunked in the ribs or taking one off his derrierre.

His dad would have done that (remember him throwing a broken bat in Mike Piazza's direction) ... and had no compunction about it whatsoever.

What's good for The Rocket ... is good for the sparkler.


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PostPosted: 11 Jun 2018 7:33 pm 
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Childress is popular with the donors who count. So he isn’t going anywhere.

But it sure doesn’t help that Pierce takes a team to Omaha in his second year. And now Tech is going as well.
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